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27: Shifting L&D from Support to Strategy | Mickey Fitch-Collins, PhD

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November 11, 2025

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In this energizing solo episode of The Learnit Lounge, host Mickey Fitch-Collins, PhD, takes listeners inside the crucial shift every Learning & Development professional needs to make: from being a support order-taker to a true strategic business partner. Mickey pulls back the curtain on why traditional L&D β€œservice” language keeps professionals sidelined, and shares actionable frameworks for diagnosing business needs, challenging vague requests, and rewiring mindsets for measurable impact. You’ll hear real stories from the front linesβ€”including pivotal career moments and lessons drawn from leaders like Keith Ferrazzi and Ash Panjwaniβ€”plus practical tools you can use to move beyond building content to solving meaningful business challenges.

From the power of asking better questions to adopting the Value Creation Compass, this episode is packed with real-world advice for L&D pros ready to uplevel their influence and impact.

What You’ll Learn:

  • Why β€œyour value isn’t in what you build, it’s in what you solve”—and how this mindset shift changes everything for L&D pros
  • The key questions to ask that move you from order-taker to strategic partner
  • How to use the Value Creation Compass to diagnose real business drivers, from performance to retention, culture, and risk
  • The hidden dangers of defaulting to β€œsupport provider” languageβ€”and alternative phrasing to elevate your impact
  • Stories of career-defining turning points that forced a rethink of what makes L&D work truly valuable
  • Practical strategies (and inspiration from peers) for aligning with the business first, and leading with curiosityβ€”not just solutions

In This Episode:

  • 00:01 – ΒιΆΉΉϋΆ³΄«Γ½lcome to The Learn-It-Allβ„’ podcast: setting the stage
  • 00:42 – The truth about value in L&D: it’s not what you build
  • 01:26 – Why traditional L&D gets stuck as a service function
  • 01:58 – The pivotal question that reframes your impact
  • 02:18 – Introducing the Value Creation Compass
  • 02:36 – Diagnosing needs versus gaps: asking the right questions
  • 02:39 – How language shapes your perceived value
  • 03:05 – Keith Ferrazzi’s β€œco-elevating” teams and challenge culture
  • 03:32 – β€œOrder taker to orchestrator”: reframing your L&D identity
  • 03:34 – A personal story: when beautiful training misses the mark
  • 04:44 – The wake-up call: listening before building
  • 05:08 – Lessons from Ash Panjwani: business alignment first
  • 05:16 – Programs second: a better way to design L&D
  • 05:25 – How to earn your seat at the strategy table
  • 05:42 – Language of outcomes: how to elevate L&D conversations
  • 05:56 – Where your real credibility comes from
  • 06:06 – Closing thoughts and ways to connect

About Mickey Fitch-Collins

Mickey Fitch-Collins, PhD helps people lead like humans first. As a Human Skills Facilitator at Learnit, she designs and leads workshops that turn everyday challengesβ€”like feedback, burnout, and prioritizationβ€”into practical, people-centered skills. Her workshops are equal parts research, real talk, and humor, creating learning experiences that actually stick.

Before joining Learnit, Mickey spent two decades in higher education leadership, where she coached and supervised hundreds of professionals through growth, change, and conflict while helping students graduate. That experience fuels her belief that strong leadership isn’t about having all the answersβ€”it’s about building trust, curiosity, and connection.

Whether she’s facilitating a workshop, hosting The Learnit Lounge podcast, leading a panel, or sharing insights on LinkedIn, her goal stays the same: make professional development feel less like a checkbox and more like a conversation worth having.

Resources Referenced:

  • Mickey on
  • Keith Ferrazzi, Never Lead Alone (book)β€”

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