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274: The 6 Levels of Control That Signal Team Failure | Kevin Black

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January 27, 2026

Release Date: Jan 27

Chaos isn't just survivalβ€”it's an opportunity.

In this electrifying episode of the Learn-It-Allβ„’ podcast, host Damon Lembi welcomes strategic advisor, U.S. Army veteran, and author Kevin Black for a game-changing deep dive on team chaos. Drawing from military history, behavioral science, and his groundbreaking book Strength and Chaos, Kevin reveals why chaos is misunderstood as merely negativeβ€”and how leaders can harness it for team growth. The duo unpacks the difference between destructive and constructive chaos, behavioral adaptability, and the β€œPAR” dynamic that determines whether your team thrives or crumbles under stress. Whether you run a startup or manage a legacy organization, this episode arms you with a practical playbook for navigatingβ€”rather than fearingβ€”uncertainty.

From real stories of battlefield improvisation to boardroom breakdowns, you'll reclaim chaos as your competitive advantage.

What You’ll Learn:

  • Why chaos isn’t always the enemyβ€”and how rethinking it changes everything
  • The behavioral building blocks that determine your team’s reaction to chaos
  • Kevin’s six-level β€œcontrol continuum” for diagnosing constructive vs. destructive chaos
  • How leaders can adapt their style to unlock discretionary effort and resilience
  • What disciplined initiative, mission command, and trust look like in high-performing teams
  • Hands-on exercises and tools to unify diverse personalities and create productive power
  • Why critical thinking beats AI shortcutsβ€”even when uncertainty spikes
  • Case studies from military history and business that reveal the consequences of toxic leadership vs. adaptable command

In This Episode:

  • 00:00 – Why chaos is personalβ€”and not just a storm to avoid
  • 00:32 – Meet Kevin Black: Army vet, advisor, author, and chaos expert
  • 01:44 – What makes Strength and Chaos a first-of-its-kind book on chaos
  • 02:55 – Defining chaos: eustress vs. distress, crisis vs. disorder
  • 05:18 – β€œMission” vs. β€œpeople” behaviors: key drivers in team settings
  • 07:26 – Are CEOs born with ideal behaviorsβ€”or is adaptability the real superpower?
  • 10:19 – How β€œbehavioral drift” creates lopsided teams (and big business mistakes)
  • 11:41 – Decoding the chaos dynamic: PAR (Perceive, Action, Reaction)
  • 13:25 – The control continuum: anarchy, initiative, compliance, resistance
  • 16:25 – Lessons from military teamwork: why decentralization is so hard
  • 19:50 – Comparing battle plans: German blitz vs. U.S. invasion of Iraq
  • 21:32 – How toxic leaders trigger malicious compliance and organizational sabotage
  • 23:51 – Who should read Strength and Chaosβ€”and how to use its frameworks
  • 26:11 – Four levels of constructive chaos: unity, integration, mission command, trust
  • 29:56 – Kevin’s β€œcontrolled chaos” war-game workshops for execs
  • 33:06 – What if you’re naturally resistant to chaos and uncertainty?
  • 34:58 – The leader’s real job: turn your team into the rock stars
  • 35:52 – β€œDOING” acronym: measuring true team performance
  • 38:51 – AI, critical thinking, and the future of adaptive teams
  • 41:40 – The metaphysics of chaos: why it’s inevitable (and how to thrive)
  • 44:44 – Kevin’s favorite leader who crushed chaos: Stonewall Jackson
  • 46:27 – How to use (not abuse) Kevin’s frameworks with your team
  • 47:56 – Connect with Kevin Black and learn more

About Kevin Black

Kevin Black is a U.S. Army veteran, strategic advisor, and adjunct professor of military history who helps leaders build resilient teams. He’s the author of Strength and Chaos, the first book to scientifically measure chaos at the leadership and team levels. After three years of research and extensive experience in behavioral profiling, Kevin developed actionable tools to turn chaos into a strategic edge. He regularly consults with executives using computer war gaming and behavioral diagnostics, empowering teams to adapt and thrive in the most uncertain environments.

Resources Referenced:

  • Kevin Black’s website:
  • Kevin Black on LinkedIn:
  • Kevin’s book:

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