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237: The Green Beret Who Learned to Lead with Empathy | Clarence Dingman

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October 30, 2025

Release Date: Oct 30

Whether in the military or business, the strongest teams are built on continuous learning, open communication, and a shared sense of purpose. In this action-packed episode, Damon sits down with Clarence Dingman, President of Defense Markets at PingWind, to uncover the leadership principles that drive high-performing organizations. Drawing from his Special Forces career and experience leading a dual-culture company through rapid growth and a major merger, Clarence provides a playbook for leaders at every levelβ€”whether you’re stepping up to a big new role or uniting teams after an acquisition. His stories highlight the power of active listening, building trust, and leaning into discomfort as a growth opportunity. If you want tactical strategies on culture, onboarding, and empowering your teamsβ€”even in tough timesβ€”this episode delivers. From military lessons to boardroom breakthroughs, get ready to learn what the best leaders keep doingβ€”even after they reach the top.

What You’ll Learn:

  • The importance of anchoring company culture around lifelong learning (and how Clarence uses Michelangelo’s β€œAnd yet, I am still learning” to drive growth)
  • How to transition from being a doer to a resource-driven leaderβ€”and why empowerment beats micromanagement
  • Clarence’s firsthand playbook for merging two companies and uniting different cultures after a major acquisition
  • Why empathy and active listening are crucial for problem-solving and retention at scale
  • What to do when top performers clash with company valuesβ€”and the hidden costs of tolerating toxic talent
  • Actionable tips on onboarding, employee engagement, and making feedback a two-way streetβ€”even as your team grows into the hundreds

In This Episode:

  • 00:00 – Why environment matters more than the perfect job offer
  • 01:36 – The business case for β€œalways learning” as a cultural value
  • 05:12 – Clarence’s military journey: from infantry to Special Forces
  • 08:36 – Accelerated learning: transferring military lessons to business
  • 11:00 – How empathy and active listening create win-win outcomes
  • 12:18 – Taking the leap: stepping into a challenging new leadership role
  • 14:56 – Advice for stepping outside your comfort zone
  • 16:49 – Navigating a merger: uniting two established cultures
  • 17:46 – Clarence’s approach to building trust and communication post-acquisition
  • 19:41 – Biggest pain points in scaling: change management and uncertainty
  • 21:09 – Learning to let go: moving from doer to resource agent
  • 24:03 – How to become a hero-maker (not just a hero) as a leader
  • 25:05 – Penguin’s employee-centric culture and retention strategies
  • 27:29 – Building core values with bottom-up input (not just top-down)
  • 30:54 – What to do when you need culture buy-inβ€”or a culture do-over
  • 34:13 – How to handle high-performing but toxic team members
  • 37:51 – Penguin’s people-first onboarding process
  • 41:58 – Breaking down leadership barriers to get authentic feedback
  • 43:54 – Clarence’s leadership philosophy and final advice for listener

About Clarence Dingman

Clarence Dingman is President of Defense Markets for PingWind, a leading DC-based provider of IT and mission support services to federal and defense agencies. Clarence’s career began as an Army infantry officer before he moved into Special Forces, serving 11 years and bringing direct expertise in leadership, unconventional missions, and culture-building under pressure. After partnering with ±ΚΎ±²Τ²΅°ΒΎ±²Τ»ε’s founder and fellow veteran, Aaron Moak, Clarence now leads organizational growth, cultural integration post-merger, and large-scale talent development. He is passionate about creating learning organizations founded on empathy, openness, and mission-focused results

Resources Referenced:

  • PingWind ΒιΆΉΉϋΆ³΄«Γ½bsite:
  • Clarence on LinkedIn:
  • Book:
  • Michelangelo’s quote β€œAnd yet, I am still learning” (featured as a core value)
  • ±ΚΎ±²Τ²΅°ΒΎ±²Τ»ε’s

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