237: The Green Beret Who Learned to Lead with Empathy | Clarence Dingman
Release Date:Β
October 30, 2025
Release Date: Oct 30
Whether in the military or business, the strongest teams are built on continuous learning, open communication, and a shared sense of purpose. In this action-packed episode, Damon sits down with Clarence Dingman, President of Defense Markets at PingWind, to uncover the leadership principles that drive high-performing organizations. Drawing from his Special Forces career and experience leading a dual-culture company through rapid growth and a major merger, Clarence provides a playbook for leaders at every levelβwhether youβre stepping up to a big new role or uniting teams after an acquisition. His stories highlight the power of active listening, building trust, and leaning into discomfort as a growth opportunity. If you want tactical strategies on culture, onboarding, and empowering your teamsβeven in tough timesβthis episode delivers. From military lessons to boardroom breakthroughs, get ready to learn what the best leaders keep doingβeven after they reach the top.
What Youβll Learn:
The importance of anchoring company culture around lifelong learning (and how Clarence uses Michelangeloβs βAnd yet, I am still learningβ to drive growth)
How to transition from being a doer to a resource-driven leaderβand why empowerment beats micromanagement
Clarenceβs firsthand playbook for merging two companies and uniting different cultures after a major acquisition
Why empathy and active listening are crucial for problem-solving and retention at scale
What to do when top performers clash with company valuesβand the hidden costs of tolerating toxic talent
Actionable tips on onboarding, employee engagement, and making feedback a two-way streetβeven as your team grows into the hundreds
In This Episode:
00:00 β Why environment matters more than the perfect job offer
01:36 β The business case for βalways learningβ as a cultural value
05:12 β Clarenceβs military journey: from infantry to Special Forces
08:36 β Accelerated learning: transferring military lessons to business
11:00 β How empathy and active listening create win-win outcomes
12:18 β Taking the leap: stepping into a challenging new leadership role
14:56 β Advice for stepping outside your comfort zone
16:49 β Navigating a merger: uniting two established cultures
17:46 β Clarenceβs approach to building trust and communication post-acquisition
19:41 β Biggest pain points in scaling: change management and uncertainty
21:09 β Learning to let go: moving from doer to resource agent
24:03 β How to become a hero-maker (not just a hero) as a leader
25:05 β Penguinβs employee-centric culture and retention strategies
27:29 β Building core values with bottom-up input (not just top-down)
30:54 β What to do when you need culture buy-inβor a culture do-over
34:13 β How to handle high-performing but toxic team members
37:51 β Penguinβs people-first onboarding process
41:58 β Breaking down leadership barriers to get authentic feedback
43:54 β Clarenceβs leadership philosophy and final advice for listener
About Clarence Dingman
Clarence Dingman is President of Defense Markets for PingWind, a leading DC-based provider of IT and mission support services to federal and defense agencies. Clarenceβs career began as an Army infantry officer before he moved into Special Forces, serving 11 years and bringing direct expertise in leadership, unconventional missions, and culture-building under pressure. After partnering with ±ΚΎ±²Τ²΅°ΒΎ±²Τ»εβs founder and fellow veteran, Aaron Moak, Clarence now leads organizational growth, cultural integration post-merger, and large-scale talent development. He is passionate about creating learning organizations founded on empathy, openness, and mission-focused results
Resources Referenced:
PingWind ΒιΆΉΉϋΆ³΄«Γ½bsite:
Clarence on LinkedIn:
Book:
Michelangeloβs quote βAnd yet, I am still learningβ (featured as a core value)